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AlienOvan: Updated Save logic

2026-03-15T01:41:07Z

Updated Save logic

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	A '''Save''' ~~occurs~~ when an attacker or trigger meets or beats their target's '''Status Defence'''. The target may have the opportunity to make a '''Saving Throw''' as a last-ditch effort to minimise the effects on undesirable or deadly ~~conditions~~. Succeeding reduces the magnitude of the effect ~~whereas~~ a ~~Critical~~ may negate it entirely.		A '''Save''' can occur when an attacker or trigger meets or beats their target's '''Status Defence'''. The target may have the opportunity to make a '''Saving Throw''' as a last-ditch effort to minimise the effects on an undesirable or deadly condition. Succeeding reduces the magnitude of the effect, getting a significantly high roll may may negate it entirely.

			==The Saving Throws==
			There are four types of saving throws: '''Body''', '''Reflex''', '''Mind''' and '''Luck'''. The first three correspond to '''Endurance''', '''Agility''', and '''Charisma''' respectively. The final Save is relative to the user's Level.

			A Luck save is the final roll a character can attempt to avoid an outcome that would permanently alter or end their character, success will prevent or mitigate the effects.

	==Save Trigger Requirements==		==Save Trigger Requirements==
	A character can make a Saving Throw under the following conditions:		A character can make a Saving Throw under the following conditions:

	♦ The '''Game-Master asks''' a player to roll a Saving Throw for the character, ~~including bonuses if~~ any.		♦ The '''Game-Master asks''' a player to roll a Saving Throw for the character, for any reason.

	♦ Character has '''Proficiency''' or '''Expertise''' in an Attribute or Status Defence that the Saving Throw allows. ~~They can add their '''Attribute Bonus or die''' to this~~ roll~~, respectively~~.		♦ Character has '''Proficiency''' or '''Expertise''' in an Attribute or Status Defence that the Saving Throw allows. If it is Expertise, the roll is made at [[Advantage]].

	♦ Character owns a '''Metaphor or Feature''' that lets them roll Saving Throws, following any proficiency rules as stated above.		♦ Character owns a '''Metaphor or Feature''' that lets them roll Saving Throws, following any proficiency rules as stated above.

	~~♦ Game master permits the character to [[Exert]] X to trigger a Saving Throw, additional cost may raise the throw to Proficient or Expertise.~~

	♦ Player has access to a [[Meta Power]] to trigger Saving Throws, and may pay MP to do so.		♦ Player has access to a [[Meta Power]] to trigger Saving Throws, and may pay MP to do so.

	~~==Proficiency and Expertise==~~
	If a character is considered '''<code>Proficient</code>''', they can add their '''Attribute Bonus''' to the check. If they have '''<code>Expertise</code>''', they can roll their '''Attribute dice''' instead. Attribute dice are the same as Metaphor Component dice ranks.

	~~If a character is neither but still allowed to roll a Saving throw, they roll a d12 and whatever modifiers their exception permits.~~

	==The Saving Throw==		==The Saving Throw==
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	If the character rolls 10 or more higher than the Save TN, it becomes a '''Miraculous Save''', instead of reducing the status magnitude, the magnitude is '''reduced to 0''' and the character is '''unaffected'''. Rolling a 12 on this die still [[explode]]s as any regular d12 does.		If the character rolls 10 or more higher than the Save TN, it becomes a '''Miraculous Save''', instead of reducing the status magnitude, the magnitude is '''reduced to 0''' and the character is '''unaffected'''. Rolling a 12 on this die still [[explode]]s as any regular d12 does.

			The Target number can't be lowered below '''4''', no matter how high the character's level or attribute.

	<small>''"The Rogue sneaks into the Archmage's chambers to steal an artifact. As they approach a box containing what they seek, they are subject to a Magnitude 30 Sleep status effect upon touching it. This exceeds their Mind Defence of 16 to the point they will get a Severe condition (Sleep for 24 hours). The Rogue has a Metaphor to allow them to roll Mind Saving Throws with Proficiency. So with their Charisma of 3, the Target number is reduced to 10 and they roll a d12 plus 3. If they meet or exceed the TN, they reduce the magnitude by half and only become Drowzy for the lesser form of the Sleep effect."''</small>		<small>''"The Rogue sneaks into the Archmage's chambers to steal an artifact. As they approach a box containing what they seek, they are subject to a Magnitude 30 Sleep status effect upon touching it. This exceeds their Mind Defence of 16 to the point they will get a Severe condition (Sleep for 24 hours). The Rogue has a Metaphor to allow them to roll Mind Saving Throws with Proficiency. So with their Charisma of 3, the Target number is reduced to 10 and they roll a d12 plus 3. If they meet or exceed the TN, they reduce the magnitude by half and only become Drowzy for the lesser form of the Sleep effect."''</small>
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AlienOvan: Completely revised Save mechanic, it's good now!

2026-03-12T00:08:11Z

Completely revised Save mechanic, it's good now!

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	A '''Save''' occurs when an attacker or trigger meets or beats their target's [[Status ~~Threshold]]~~. The target ~~rolls~~ the ~~appropriate dice and modifiers~~ to ~~meet~~ or ~~beat~~ the ~~attacker's result and if they do, they can reduce~~ the ~~Status [[magnitude]] by half~~.		A '''Save''' occurs when an attacker or trigger meets or beats their target's '''Status Defence'''. The target may have the opportunity to make a '''Saving Throw''' as a last-ditch effort to minimise the effects on undesirable or deadly conditions. Succeeding reduces the magnitude of the effect whereas a Critical may negate it entirely.

	==Save ~~Process~~==		==Save Trigger Requirements==
	~~If an attack has some Status effect,~~ a value known as '''Magnitude''' is inflicted upon the target. The status will attack the target's Body, Reflex or Mind Core value. If the magnitude meets or exceeds this value, the defender can roll to '''Save''' against the condition's full effects. Otherwise the ~~status ailment fails to be inflicted.~~		A character can make a Saving Throw under the following conditions:

	~~Some Status magnitudes~~ '''~~persist~~''' ~~or linger on~~ a ~~target, this does not inflict the Status condition upon~~ the ~~target~~, ~~but will be added as a bonus to subsequent attempts~~.		♦ The '''Game-Master asks''' a player to roll a Saving Throw for the character, including bonuses if any.

	'''~~Save Formula~~'''		♦ Character has '''Proficiency''' or '''Expertise''' in an Attribute or Status Defence that the Saving Throw allows. They can add their '''Attribute Bonus or die''' to this roll, respectively.
	~~The formula to roll a Save a condition is:~~
	'''~~[ d12 + Appropiate~~ Attribute ~~+ Modifiers ]~~'''

	'''~~Endurance~~''' ~~is used for Body-affecting conditions~~, ~~and '''Charisma''' is used for psychological conditions~~. ~~Otherwise~~ a ~~condition will specify which Attributes can be used~~.		♦ Character owns a '''Metaphor or Feature''' that lets them roll Saving Throws, following any proficiency rules as stated above.

			♦ Game master permits the character to [[Exert]] X to trigger a Saving Throw, additional cost may raise the throw to Proficient or Expertise.

			♦ Player has access to a [[Meta Power]] to trigger Saving Throws, and may pay MP to do so.

	==~~Exert Bonus~~==		==Proficiency and Expertise==
	~~Before the defending target rolls~~ a ~~Save~~, ~~the defender may [[Exert]] 1: Regardless of the Save succeeding or failing, the result of the~~ '''Attribute ~~die~~''' ~~reduces Status magnitude taken by its result, and in~~ the ~~case of success~~, ~~this reduction occurs~~ '''~~after~~''' ~~it is halved~~.		If a character is considered '''<code>Proficient</code>''', they can add their '''Attribute Bonus''' to the check. If they have '''<code>Expertise</code>''', they can roll their '''Attribute dice''' instead. Attribute dice are the same as Metaphor Component dice ranks.

	~~<small>''"The Detective has a flask of acid thrown at them while fighting in a laboratory of a suspect. The Acid flask can inflict Acid Burn with~~ a ~~magnitude of 12, this exceeds the Detective's Body value of 10. The Detective makes a Body Save with TN 12, their Endurance rank~~ is ~~1 so they get~~ to roll a ~~d4 and it comes up as 3. If she Exerts 1 to resist the condition~~, ~~then she will~~ roll ~~the save~~ and ~~deduct 3 from the magnitude taken whether she succeeds or not. Down to 9 points on failure and to 3 on success~~.~~"''</small>~~		If a character is neither but still allowed to roll a Saving throw, they roll a d12 and whatever modifiers their exception permits.

			==The Saving Throw==
			The base TN for a Saving Throw is '''12''' minus the character's '''Attribute bonus'''. So a bonus of 2 means a TN of 10. Rolls the following formula, if they meet or exceed the TN, they Succeed on the Save, otherwise they fail:

			'''[ Saving Throw Target Number = 12 - Attribute Bonus ]'''
			'''[ Saving Throw = d12 + Attribute Bonus OR Attribute Die ]'''

			If the character rolls 10 or more higher than the Save TN, it becomes a '''Miraculous Save''', instead of reducing the status magnitude, the magnitude is '''reduced to 0''' and the character is '''unaffected'''. Rolling a 12 on this die still [[explode]]s as any regular d12 does.

			<small>''"The Rogue sneaks into the Archmage's chambers to steal an artifact. As they approach a box containing what they seek, they are subject to a Magnitude 30 Sleep status effect upon touching it. This exceeds their Mind Defence of 16 to the point they will get a Severe condition (Sleep for 24 hours). The Rogue has a Metaphor to allow them to roll Mind Saving Throws with Proficiency. So with their Charisma of 3, the Target number is reduced to 10 and they roll a d12 plus 3. If they meet or exceed the TN, they reduce the magnitude by half and only become Drowzy for the lesser form of the Sleep effect."''</small>
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AlienOvan: /* Exert Bonus */ improved logic, added example

2026-02-26T11:27:49Z

Exert Bonus: improved logic, added example

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	==Exert Bonus==		==Exert Bonus==
	Before the defending target rolls a Save, the defender may [[Exert]] 1, and ~~when they do~~ they get to roll the ~~relevant Attribute dice whether the Save succeeds or fails~~, the ~~magnitude is reduced by~~ the ~~result before its~~ magnitude ~~is halved~~.		Before the defending target rolls a Save, the defender may [[Exert]] 1: Regardless of the Save succeeding or failing, the result of the '''Attribute die''' reduces Status magnitude taken by its result, and in the case of success, this reduction occurs '''after''' it is halved.

			<small>''"The Detective has a flask of acid thrown at them while fighting in a laboratory of a suspect. The Acid flask can inflict Acid Burn with a magnitude of 12, this exceeds the Detective's Body value of 10. The Detective makes a Body Save with TN 12, their Endurance rank is 1 so they get to roll a d4 and it comes up as 3. If she Exerts 1 to resist the condition, then she will roll the save and deduct 3 from the magnitude taken whether she succeeds or not. Down to 9 points on failure and to 3 on success."''</small>

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AlienOvan: Revised Save logic

2026-02-25T22:03:14Z

Revised Save logic

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	A '''Save''' occurs when an attacker or trigger ~~fails to beat the~~ target's ~~'''~~Status Threshold~~''' for one of their [[Core value~~]]s~~. Failing~~ the ~~save inflicts an amount of~~ Status [[~~Magnitude~~]] ~~for a condition. Some conditions can be recovered from using the Save mechanic as well, only the one affected rolls~~.		A '''Save''' occurs when an attacker or trigger meets or beats their target's [[Status Threshold]]. The target rolls the appropriate dice and modifiers to meet or beat the attacker's result and if they do, they can reduce the Status [[magnitude]] by half.

	==~~Exerting to~~ Save==		==Save Process==
	~~The defender of a~~ Status ~~infliction interaction can [[Exert]] in order to roll for their Save~~, ~~the defender must~~ '''~~declare~~''' ~~this Exert before~~ the ~~results of~~ the ~~attacker~~'s ~~check resolves.~~		If an attack has some Status effect, a value known as '''Magnitude''' is inflicted upon the target. The status will attack the target's Body, Reflex or Mind Core value. If the magnitude meets or exceeds this value, the defender can roll to '''Save''' against the condition's full effects. Otherwise the status ailment fails to be inflicted.

	~~==Status Threshold==~~
	~~Similar to~~, ~~but separate from~~ Core ~~Values~~. ~~The Status Threshold is~~ the ~~defensive statistic for affecting a character's Core values~~, ~~much like how [[Evasion]] and [[Deflection]] does for regular attacks.~~

	~~Certain Metaphors like [[Recommended Metaphors\|Fitness]] and '''Discipline-Will'''~~ can ~~raise a character~~'~~s Body and Mind Status Thresholds respectively. The~~ ''~~'Dodge~~''' ~~Metaphor can be customised to include increases to the Reflex Status Threshold.~~

	~~==Rolling Saves==~~
	~~A Save occurs~~ against a specific [[Core Value]] of a character. Physical conditions against Body, Psychological conditions against Mind, and effects mitigated by good movement with Reflex. The attacker's goal is to meet or beat the ~~defender~~'s ~~'''Status Threshold''' for~~ the ~~targeted core~~.

	~~The Target number an opponent~~'~~s magnitude/effect will inflict is usually the sum of:~~		Some Status magnitudes '''persist''' or linger on a target, this does not inflict the Status condition upon the target, but will be added as a bonus to subsequent attempts.
	''~~'[ d12 + attack Attribute + Metaphor bonuses ]~~'''

	~~If the Defender~~ [~~[Exert~~]~~]s, they can then roll the appropriate Attribute dice and add its result to their Status threshold, if it causes the attacker to fail, the defender Saves.~~		'''Save Formula'''
			The formula to roll a Save a condition is:
			'''[ d12 + Appropiate Attribute + Modifiers ]'''

	~~The defender succeeds on their save if the opponent~~'~~s magnitude fails to beat their Status Threshold~~, ~~or if the defender Exerts~~ and ~~their result beats the attacker~~'s.		'''Endurance''' is used for Body-affecting conditions, and '''Charisma''' is used for psychological conditions. Otherwise a condition will specify which Attributes can be used.

	==~~Resolving Saves~~==		==Exert Bonus==
	~~Depending on whether~~ the ~~defender succeeds or fails their saves~~, ~~as well as~~ the [[~~Magnitude~~]] ~~of the status versus the defender's Status threshold determines the '''severity''' of the condition.~~		Before the defending target rolls a Save, the defender may [[Exert]] 1, and when they do they get to roll the relevant Attribute dice whether the Save succeeds or fails, the magnitude is reduced by the result before its magnitude is halved.

	~~'''Successful Save'''~~
	~~If a condition has no lingering/persisting magnitude~~ and ~~the attacker fails~~ to ~~beat~~ the ~~defender's Status Threshold,~~ the ~~user~~ succeeds ~~the save and takes no status magnitude.~~

	~~'''Successful, but Suppressed Save'''~~
	~~If the defender Saves the condition but the magnitude lingers/persists~~, the magnitude is reduced by ~~'''half''' (rounded down) and '''Suppressed'''. Suppressed conditions do not do anything to~~ the ~~affected creature but this~~ magnitude is ~~added to future attempts to inflict the condition.~~

	~~'''Failed Save'''~~
	~~If the attacker rolls a result equal or greater than the user's Status threshold, the defender '''fails the Save''' and becomes affected with the condition with the proper magnitude.~~

	~~'''Excess Magnitude'''~~
	If the magnitude of a Status condition exceeds the Status Threshold of a character by '''10 or more''', the effects of the condition will become more severe or add additional complications, depending on the condition.

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AlienOvan at 22:46, 12 February 2026

2026-02-12T22:46:48Z

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	A '''Save''' ~~is a defensive~~ trigger a ~~character~~ can be ~~given to help protect themselves~~ from the ~~full effects of conditions~~, ~~attacks or traps dealt to them~~.		A '''Save''' occurs when an attacker or trigger fails to beat the target's '''Status Threshold''' for one of their [[Core value]]s. Failing the save inflicts an amount of Status [[Magnitude]] for a condition. Some conditions can be recovered from using the Save mechanic as well, only the one affected rolls.

	==Exerting to Save==		==Exerting to Save==
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	'''[ d12 + attack Attribute + Metaphor bonuses ]'''		'''[ d12 + attack Attribute + Metaphor bonuses ]'''

	If the Defender [[Exert]]s, they can then roll:		If the Defender [[Exert]]s, they can then roll the appropriate Attribute dice and add its result to their Status threshold, if it causes the attacker to fail, the defender Saves.
	~~'''[ d12 + applicable~~ Attribute ~~+ Metaphor bonuses ]'''~~

	The defender succeeds on their save if the opponent's magnitude fails to beat their Status Threshold, or if the defender Exerts and their result beats the attacker's.		The defender succeeds on their save if the opponent's magnitude fails to beat their Status Threshold, or if the defender Exerts and their result beats the attacker's.
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	==Resolving Saves==		==Resolving Saves==
	Depending on whether the defender succeeds or fails their saves, as well as the [[Magnitude]] of the status versus the defender's Status threshold determines the '''severity''' of the condition.		Depending on whether the defender succeeds or fails their saves, as well as the [[Magnitude]] of the status versus the defender's Status threshold determines the '''severity''' of the condition.

	~~===Suppressed Condition===~~		'''Successful Save'''
	~~A Suppressed~~ condition ~~is when a character~~ has ~~points of status~~ magnitude ~~but~~ the ~~effect doesn~~'~~t apply. This can occur whenever~~ the ~~defender~~ succeeds ~~a Save but~~ magnitude '''~~lingers~~'''.		If a condition has no lingering/persisting magnitude and the attacker fails to beat the defender's Status Threshold, the user succeeds the save and takes no status magnitude.

	~~===Saved===~~		'''Successful, but Suppressed Save'''
	~~A Condition that is successfully saved against suppresses~~ the ~~effect and reduces any lingering~~ magnitude by '''half'''.		If the defender Saves the condition but the magnitude lingers/persists, the magnitude is reduced by '''half''' (rounded down) and '''Suppressed'''. Suppressed conditions do not do anything to the affected creature but this magnitude is added to future attempts to inflict the condition.

	~~===Active===~~		'''Failed Save'''
	~~A condition that beats~~ the ~~defender~~'s Status ~~Threshold and/or~~ defender'~~s Exert~~ Save ~~attempt inflicts~~ the ~~effect that~~ the ~~Status condition is designed to do~~.		If the attacker rolls a result equal or greater than the user's Status threshold, the defender '''fails the Save''' and becomes affected with the condition with the proper magnitude.

	~~===Severe===~~		'''Excess Magnitude'''
	If the magnitude of a Status ~~conditions~~ exceeds the Status Threshold of a character by 10 or more, '''additional~~''' effects can trigger~~ depending on the condition.		If the magnitude of a Status condition exceeds the Status Threshold of a character by '''10 or more''', the effects of the condition will become more severe or add additional complications, depending on the condition.

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AlienOvan: Initial draft

2026-02-12T00:34:03Z

Initial draft

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A '''Save''' is a defensive trigger a character can be given to help protect themselves from the full effects of conditions, attacks or traps dealt to them.

==Exerting to Save==
The defender of a Status infliction interaction can [[Exert]] in order to roll for their Save, the defender must '''declare''' this Exert before the results of the attacker's check resolves.

==Status Threshold==
Similar to, but separate from Core Values. The Status Threshold is the defensive statistic for affecting a character's Core values, much like how [[Evasion]] and [[Deflection]] does for regular attacks.

Certain Metaphors like [[Recommended Metaphors|Fitness]] and '''Discipline-Will''' can raise a character's Body and Mind Status Thresholds respectively. The '''Dodge''' Metaphor can be customised to include increases to the Reflex Status Threshold.

==Rolling Saves==
A Save occurs against a specific [[Core Value]] of a character. Physical conditions against Body, Psychological conditions against Mind, and effects mitigated by good movement with Reflex. The attacker's goal is to meet or beat the defender's '''Status Threshold''' for the targeted core.

The Target number an opponent's magnitude/effect will inflict is usually the sum of:
'''[ d12 + attack Attribute + Metaphor bonuses ]'''

If the Defender [[Exert]]s, they can then roll:
'''[ d12 + applicable Attribute + Metaphor bonuses ]'''

The defender succeeds on their save if the opponent's magnitude fails to beat their Status Threshold, or if the defender Exerts and their result beats the attacker's.

==Resolving Saves==
Depending on whether the defender succeeds or fails their saves, as well as the [[Magnitude]] of the status versus the defender's Status threshold determines the '''severity''' of the condition.

===Suppressed Condition===
A Suppressed condition is when a character has points of status magnitude but the effect doesn't apply. This can occur whenever the defender succeeds a Save but magnitude '''lingers'''.

===Saved===
A Condition that is successfully saved against suppresses the effect and reduces any lingering magnitude by '''half'''.

===Active===
A condition that beats the defender's Status Threshold and/or defender's Exert Save attempt inflicts the effect that the Status condition is designed to do.

===Severe===
If the magnitude of a Status conditions exceeds the Status Threshold of a character by 10 or more, '''additional''' effects can trigger depending on the condition.

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